Sunday, January 2, 2011

Keys to death, Hell and the grave (part 3)

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

 13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
My aunt pointed out this scripture to me. She believes that no one is in hell and/or heaven right now, except Moses, Enoch and Elijah... After reading this scripture, it is very convincing that she's right, but then I'm reminded of the story, Lazarus and the rich man- (Luke 16:19-31). Is this story an example of what it was before Jesus died on the cross?
I then remember stories of people who experienced death, went to hell, and rose again. All the people that experienced this, had very similar stories, so it's hard to say that these people are lying.
I also remember Hebrews 12:1- We're surrounded by Great Clouds Of Witnesses...
The scripture says that Satan and his Fallen Angels are sent to Hell. They're not being punished right now. This is their waiting area (2 Peter 2:4)...
Now some people, who said they went to Hell, experienced people getting tortured and the ones doing the torturing were the demons. This would support 2 Peter 2:4, but if this is true, then what does 2 Thess 4:13-18 mean?
2 Peter 2:4 proves that Satan and his fallen angels reside in Hell, waiting for judgement; So they're still traveling in and out of Hell. They made Hell their Kingdom.
Some people even make a covenant with Hell (Satan and his fallen)- Is 28:14-18.
Now scriptures such as, Matt 25:41, talks about the lake of fire and not Hell. There is a difference between the two.
Rev 20:13-15 talks about the dead coming out of Hell so that they can be judged. Satan is then cast in the Lake of fire and then his Kingdom (Hell) is also cast in the lake of fire....
Still studying but this is what I'm seeing so far, according to scripture:
Hell is a waiting place for Satan and his fallen.
Satan and his fallen are not being punished right now so they're free to travel in and out of their home (Hell)
There are people who've made covenants with Hell (Satan and his fallen)....
Now heres my confusion thus far:
When Jesus returns, the dead in Christ, those who were sleeping, will rise...
and...
At the time of judgement, the dead that were in Hell, are released- which shows that people are in Hell before judgement day...
How can these two be right?...
I read 2 Thess 4:13-18 again, and then read Rev 11:3-12, which seems to go hand in hand with 2 Thess 4:13-18... The two witnesses (there goes that word again, "witnesses")- The Olive Trees- Israel and The Lampstands- The Church... The Witnesses are Israel and the Church... (Clouds of witnesses) 
Gods people (His Witnesses on Earth) will walk in great power. They will be untouchable, but there will come a time when God's people will be overpowered and killed by the enemy. The World will celebrate, but then, 2 Thess 4:13-18, those who were overpowered and killed, will rise first, and then those who survived the enemy attacks will be caught up with them to meet Jesus....
I can see surviving believers getting worried when they see so many others killed by the enemy, but then they remember the scriptures, 2 Thess 4:13-18, and are encouraged, knowing that Jesus is about to blow the trumpet...  
This is what I got during my studies and it seems clear to me right now, but still open to hearing from others...

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2 comments:

  1. There are two separate compartments in Hades, on one side is Paradise, Abrahams bosom on the other side is what we today call hell (sheol) where the unbeliever goes. “And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom”(Luke 16:23)

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  2. I apologize for the VERY late response. Thank you so much for sharing. I'm truly enjoying this journey of seeking out the hidden things in the scriptures, looking for God to reveal...

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